Midnight Oil’s co-founder, acclaimed drummer and songwriter Rob Hirst talks about his childhood, his early love of the Beatles, the shaping influence of his parents, his relationship to — and song writing process with — his Midnight Oil “blood brothers”, his passion for poetry, melody and history, his love of gardens, family and friends, and, in the face of terminal illness, his gratitude for a blessed life. Rob spoke with David Leser for this podcast just a few months before his death in January 2026.
Trailer: Heart & Soul with David Leser
At a time of profound uncertainty and rapid change, Heart & Soul offers a place for spacious, thoughtful conversation with people who have deeply impacted our lives, as well as an opportunity to reflect more deeply on what it means to be human. A series of conversations — hosted by award-winning Australian journalist, author, and public speaker, David Leser — that delve deeply into some of the themes crying out for our attention, not the least being how to find empathy in an age of outrage.


